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Predicting the All Star Reserves

The All Star Reserves are going to be announced in about an hour, so I guess this is my last chance to get on record with a final prediction. I've touched on the subject a couple of times this year, but what is the final verdict?

Given the mindset of the coaches who pick the reserves, the first place I look in order to research the most likely reserve choices isn't the scoring leaders, nor is it the PER leaders -- it's the NBA standings. Because the coaches who pick the reserves have always shown a preference first and foremost to reward players on winning teams.

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In the West, that system doesn't really help all that much, because there are currently 11 teams at .500 or better, and only 4 below .500. The one thing we can reasonably do is to eliminate any players from those bottom 4 teams, with apologies to Steve Nash and Marcin Gortat and Monta Ellis and maybe even to DeMarcus Cousins, all of whom are playing at or near an All Star level. Nash is the real omission, and he might well make the team if I was choosing the players I thought were the 12 best in the West. But my goal here is to predict what the coaches will do, and they won't have an All Star from an 11-14 team when there are so many players on winning teams this year.

West Guards (2): Russell Westbrook and Tony Parker. These two are relatively easy. The Thunder have the best record in the NBA and will get a second All Star after Durant the starter, while San Antonio has the second best record in the west and Parker has been carrying them.

West Forwards (2): LaMarcus Aldridge and Kevin Love. Again, pretty straightforward. Both the Blazers and Wolves have overachieved so far, and Aldridge and Love are their team's undisputed stars. Love' numbers are otherworldly, while Aldridge is perceived as a snub from last year and will get some compensatory votes for that. Plus, he's been fantastic.

West Center (1): Pau Gasol. Here's where it gets tough. The two required guards and two required forwards don't give much leeway, and there are some pretty clear cut choices for those four spots. But the reserve voting process allows coaches to fudge position and vote for a player who plays the position, even if it's not his primary position. So Pau Gasol or Tim Duncan or even Dirk Nowitzki is a possibility here. Another complicating factor here is that Nene of Denver, Marc Gasol of Memphis and Al Jefferson of Utah all play for good teams that arguably deserve an All Star, but don't have a clear cut candidate. I envision the vote for this spot being split among about six or seven candidates, with Gortat possibly getting a couple of votes in there. In the end, I think Pau probably emerges. He'll get some votes here, and some votes as a forward, and it will all add up to more votes than his brother gets.

West Wild Cards (2): Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Millsap. And it gets even tougher. The final two spots can go to a player at any position. I don't think it will go to a guard. The backcourt candidates are Nash, Kyle Lowry and Kevin Martin of Houston, James Harden of Oklahoma City, Ty Lawson of Denver and Ellis. Ellis and Nash play for sub .500 teams and won't get the votes for that reason. Lowry and Martin will likely split the vote as the best candidates from the Rockets, depriving Houston of any one All Star. Lawson's Nuggets squad is so balance that they'll deservedly take pride in not having an All Star. And Oklahoma City will already have two All Stars, making voters reluctant to send a third. (The same might work against Pau, but there are two many factors in his favor, specifically getting votes at two positions.)

So I think both of these spots will go to bigs. You have to deal with Duncan and Nowitzki, both of whom have All Star game streaks going back for years. Duncan remains productive on a per minute basis, but he's at a career low 27 minutes per game, and I think voters will opt for other choices. Nowitzki hasn't really been playing like an All Star this season, but it's not like he hasn't been good, and coming off a Finals MVP performance, it's hard to imagine that voters won't reward him. Dirk is in.

The last spot is going to come down to reputation versus reality with some team performance thrown in. I've long since said Nash won't be there because of his team's record, but his body or work combined with his outstanding season so far could conceivably carry the day. He's been great. It also helps that there seem to be more big guys that could split the vote. Paul Millsap of Utah is the most deserving of this spot. It would give the surprisingly competitive Jazz an All Star, and Millsap has been terrific. But with future Hall of Famers named Duncan and Nash as his competition, the underexposed Millsap has a big problem. I'm going to say that Millsap gets the final spot, but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about this one.

The East has the opposite problem of the West: there may not be enough good teams to populate an All Star team. The East has just seven teams above .500, eight with losing records. But it's not so easy to eliminate as a matter of course players like Amare Stoudemire, Deron Williams, Kyrie Irving and Greg Monroe from consideration.

East Guards (2): Joe Johnson and Kyrie Irving. This is a surprisingly murky category. There are no obvious choices. Rajon Rondo has the reputation and recognition, but has missed multiple games, and hasn't been as great as usual frankly. Deron Williams plays for a bad team. Kyrie Irving plays for a bad team AND is a rookie, a double whammy. Let's say Joe Johnson gets in, because for some reason Joe Johnson always gets in. Irving is my second guard choice over Williams because New Jersey has been worse than expected while Cleveland has been much better than expected. It's unusual for an All Star reserve to be chosen from a team with a losing record, but it helps if the perception is that the team is overachieving.

East Forwards (2): Paul Pierce and Chris Bosh. This is pretty safe. Pierce and Bosh are actually at the intersection of solid performance, great name recognition and good team records that usually characterize All Star selection.

East Center (1): Roy Hibbert. Indiana has had one of the top records in the conference all season, Hibbert is their only player with a PER over 18 (he's at 19.5) and he's a clear cut choice at center in the East. Hibbert is in.

East Wild Cards (2): Andre Iguodala and Josh Smith. Iguodala is pretty safe. Philadelphia has been at or near the top of the conference all season, and Iguodala is their best player. He's in. Josh Smith is having a good season for Atlanta, and I just think this could be the year he finally gets into an All Star game. There will be a temptation on the part of the voters to put a Chicago player into the game. The Bulls have the best record in the conference, and the voters are going to want to reward that. But will they give their votes to Carlos Boozer or to Luol Deng? I'm guessing they split the vote and Smith gets in ahead of either Bull forward.

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Irving over Brandon Jennings and Deron Williams?

Irving is good but I don’t think they’ll give him an all star nod simply because hes a rookie.

I agree I think Brandon Jennings gets in over Irving

I don’t want Pau in there for the West. No reason for 3 Lakers when they are clearly underachieving, plus he’s gonna get traded March 1st for Rondo I suspect.

The Celtics can't be that dumb.
Jennings

I’m probably allowing my own personal distaste for Jennings’ game to cloud my judgment on him.

I think deng has to be there in the east

Marc > Pau and he’s actually a center, so that would be the way to go (IMO)

Another advantage

It gets Memphis a player in the game, while keeping the Lakers at 2 not 3. If it were up to me, that’s what I would do. But I have a feeling Pau will get a combination of forward and center and sheer name recognition votes that put him in the game.

Marc in over Pau!

Milsap got screwed

O/T - I Will Get To The Story In My Next Post

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I Like the List and Analysis

Just two comments.

How much the Timberwolves are overachieving and how much of it is due primarily to Ricky Rubio and Petrovic is debatable.

If Bargnani had not been injured the Raptors are 6-7 with him playing this year there is a possibility that they would be over .500 and he would be a an all-star consideration. However in the real world he is injured and the Raptors without him have been terrible though somewhat in their defense they have played an awful of road games so far this season.

Bargs

I almost mentioned Bargs. He’s out because he’s missed half the games, but he’s been playing great, no question.

Greg Monroe has been a beast in Detroit, but the Pistons are terrible.

Looking Forward To The Clippes Playing The Pistons
barg

Will be an all star in this league. His defense is improving along with his rebounding. If he was healthy, he might have made it this year.

Predicting the NBA All-Star reserves

Here Is Mark Spears take

Nash got the wild card over milsap

gasol got center over his brother… You were close on the west. I thought that Duncan would make it to give the 2nd place spurs another all star.

LMFAO

i never saw that Clip of Scola nailing Love in the gonads with the ball, that was funny.

deng and williams

over kyrie and josh smith

Might as well list possible injury replacements

East: Rondo, Ray Allen… and whoever didn’t make it between Boozer, Deng, Josh Smith, Irving, Williams.

Here it is...

Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge and Russell Westbrook headlined the reserves for the Western Conference All-Star team.

Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker, Steve Nash and Marc Gasol rounded out the West roster, which was announced Thursday.

Chris Bosh joined Miami teammates LeBron James and Dwyane Wade on the East All-Star roster.

Joe Johnson, Roy Hibbert, Paul Pierce, Deron Williams, Luol Deng and Andre Iguodala were also chosen as reserves for the Eastern squad.

josh Smith's the most notable snub
he should've been there over Joe Johnson
jj is a guard, so hard to compare

I would put rondo for Johnson, and smith for pierce. Still 1 Celtic and 1 hawk

West

I like the West team and so happy Pau is not on the team.

D. Will has not played well this season. He looks like he’s hating life in N.J. Dirk has not been great either. Deng is hurt, so someone can take his spot.

So to recap

I got 10 out of 12 correct in both conferences.

In the west I missed Marc Gasol over his brother Pau, and Steve Nash over Paul Millsap. Interestingly, those are two possibilities I debated. I picked Pau over Marc for name recognition, and Millsap over Nash for performance. The voters basically reversed that, picking Marc on merit and Nash on name (though his numbers are great as well). I’m pretty happy with the West team. Millsap is the snub. No one else has too strong a case.

In the east I missed Deron Williams over Kyrie Irving and Luol Deng over Josh Smith. Meh. New Jersey’s record is 8-19… you usually have to have numbers through the roof to make an All Star team on a .300 team, and Williams’ numbers are not through the roof. But Irving is a rookie on a bad team, so yeah, I’m not surprised they left him off. Luol Deng is a tough one for me. 16 points and 7 rebounds per game with a TSP of 51%? This is an All Star? That’s strictly a team choice.

I thought deng would make it

over pierce, rondo over williams

The Deng pick

reminds me of Mo Williams being the Cavs “2nd” all-star and Jameer Nelson being the Magic “2nd” all-star.

maybe not desrved

but fairly obvious. Agreed

Quick comparison

Looking at Williams and Nelson in the All Star seasons compared to Deng this season, Deng still looks like a stretch. The 51% TSP is what jumps out at me. Of course, Deng is a premier defender, which usually counts for nothing in All Star selections, but should count for something.

The worst was Dale Davis in the 2000 ASG. Classic “second Pacer” pick. Amazing — the East has been the weak conference talent wise for well over a decade now.

do we know who is in the slam dunk contest and 3 pt contest yet?
CP3 is in the Slam dunk

DJ is in the three point

Surprisingly enough

Brian Cook was invited to the Got Skills challenge.

Blake will defend his dunk title and play in the Rookie/Soph game.

But he said this season he’s a taking a break after the hectic all star weekend of last year. He will take the 2012 All Star game off.

Thoughts Gomes would make it.

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