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The loss Saturday to the Spurs was painful for obvious reasons. The Clippers had the game won and allowed the Spurs to tie on one of the strangest turnovers you'll ever see. But there was some solace in knowing that the team had played well enough to win against a very good team.

Monday night in Oakland against the Warriors was a different kind of loss. A two point lead and the ball in the final three minutes certainly isn't the same thing as a three point lead and the ball in the final ten seconds, but neither are the Warriors the Spurs. The Clippers were the team with the 4-2 record in games decided by three points or less -- the Warriors were 1-6 in tight contests. With the two best players on the court, including the guy who had come through in the fourth quarter on countless occasions before, it seemed obvious that the Clippers would be the team that would execute effectively down the stretch and win the game.

Star-divide

Instead, the Warriors went on a 9-0 run to win the game. That run was decisive enough to take the game right out of the "close" category, so at least the Clippers record there stays in tact. The Clippers were scoreless over the final 3:15 of the game, and execution was the culprit. Let's look at those possessions.

  • Blake Griffin re-entered the game at the 2:48 mark with the Clippers in possession. This is significant in that Blake's minutes had been limited by foul trouble the entire game, but Golden State had no answer for him defensively when he was in.
  • On the possession, the Clipper ran a flare cut screen to get Mo Williams a three pointer. It's hard to argue with this one. Williams was 6 for 6 from deep at the time, they executed the play well and Mo got a good look. He just missed it.
  • On defense, they made a huge mistake when the forced David Lee into a miss, but the rebound bounced off of three different Clippers before landing in Ekpe Udoh's hands. No one really to blame -- just one of those plays. A few seconds later Steph Curry found Brandon Rush for a wide open three and suddenly the Warriors had the lead.
  • Now down one, the Clippers tried to post up Blake Griffin. Udoh did a good job of denying the entry pass, and Griffin received the ball much further away from the basket than he wanted. The possession went nowhere and Griffin had to kick the ball out to Paul, who had to force up a jumper with a short clock. Miss.
  • On the other end, Monta Ellis went one-on-one against Paul and made a beautiful move to the basket to put the Warriors up three with 83 seconds left. Griffin appeared unwilling to rotate and risk a sixth foul, and with DeAndre Jordan on the bench, there was no one else to protect the rim.
  • On the next Clippers' possession they tried to return the favor and went iso with Paul on Ellis. Again, not a bad strategy -- let your best clutch player create something for himself or one of his teammates. It seemed to work too, as Paul got Ellis retreating -- when Ellis slipped, Paul had plenty of room to shoot, but for some reason he didn't. Seconds later, he got Ellis to bite on a pump fake, but rather than jump into him and draw a shooting foul, he once again held onto the ball. They reset, ran a quick pick and roll with Griffin and got the switch so that Dominic McGuire was on Paul. CP3 figured he could take McGuire, and tried to create space and shoot over him, but the 6'7" McGuire got a piece of the shot.
  • This was really the key possession. Down three with plenty of time to play defense and get the ball back, a bucket here and it's still a game. An empty trip though and you're in big touble. The play call, a Paul iso, isn't bad, but one wonders why not give Griffin a touch there? Griffin was 7 for 10 in the game and had also drawn five shooting fouls in the game. Sure, the last play had gone to Griffin and he hadn't delivered. However, Udoh had left the game at the prior stoppage after hitting the floor battling for rebound position, and McGuire, essentially a small forward, was defending Griffin. Whether the Clippers recognized it or not is debatable -- but Griffin had a huge advantage in the post. Even so, Paul had a couple of different opportunities that he didn't take.
  • The Warriors rebounded the blocked shot and took their time bringing the ball upcourt. Curry realized just in time that the 8 second count was getting close, and sprinted the last few steps into the corner in the front court, where he was trapped by Paul and Williams. The ball seemed to be loose for a moment, but in the melee Paul fouled Curry and the 90% career foul shooter made two -- five point lead, 54 seconds left.
  • A quick aside on the 8 second rule. This was not an 8 second violation. Until this season, NBA referees were instructed to call an 8 second violation when the 24 second clock displayed 16 -- makes sense, right, 24 - 16 = 8. But this season it becomes a violation at 15. Why the difference? Is it now a 9 second rule? It's still 8 seconds, but the NBA changed the way the shot clock functions this season when they added tenths of seconds to the display. Last season, the clocked showed 0 when the full 24 seconds were expired. This season, it shows 0.9 seconds when there are still nine tenths of a second left. Similarly, when the clock displays 16, there are really 16.9 seconds on the clock. So it has to show 15 for a full 8 seconds to have elapsed -- 8.1 seconds, if you want to nitpick. So this season, I guess it's an 8.1 second count, and Curry made it with a few tenths to spare.
  • On the Clippers penultimate possession, Mo Williams missed a three, but Griffin managed to chase down the offensive rebound -- and then threw the ball at Foye's feet and out of bounds for a turnover.
  • The final possession, down seven with 19 seconds left, was laughably bad. The Clippers inbounded the ball to Griffin, and then all five players stood and stared for the next few seconds, as if no one had any idea what to do next. If a play had been diagrammed during the timeout, all of them had forgotten it by the time they inbounded the ball.

The game was lost in those final three minutes. Five Clipper possessions, zero points, six missed shots, one turnover, one missed offensive rebound that amounted to a turnover. The team that executes best at the end of a game will invariably win, and if you get out-executed by the Warriors, it's not a good day.

Clearly the Clippers were not helped any by the officiating in the game -- but they still win if they simply execute down the stretch. Nonetheless, the sequence at the end of the first half was truly bizarre. Paul knew that Jackson was calling for an intentional foul on DeAndre Jordan and went into his shooting motion when the foul was being committed, sinking a half court three pointer. The officials said that the shot didn't count -- but I'm not sure there's any defensible reason that it shouldn't have. If Paul is in his motion before the whistle, which he was, then the shot should count -- that's the rule as far as I understand it. If you're wondering why the referees did not review the play, well this situation (foul off the ball simultaneous to a shot) is not among the 11 reviewable situations the NBA has enumerated, so it wasn't an option.

But the next call was far more damaging. With the ball and a couple seconds difference between the shot clock and the game clock, Paul once again saw Brandon Rush approaching Jordan and launched a 35 footer as Rush pushed Jordan with both hands -- and there was no whistle. This time Paul missed, the Warriors rebounded and scored. The 5-1 mini-run, made possible by a couple of strange officiating decisions, tied the game at halftime and gave the Warriors all the momentum.

There is no reasonable explanation for why the second foul would not have been called. With three referees on the court and the foul taking place in play sight, it's not reasonable that none of them saw it -- particularly given that the Warriors had just intentionally fouled Jordan off the ball on the prior trip and were likely to do so again. The thought briefly occurred to me that the officials were trying to teach Paul some sort of lesson -- they didn't like him trying to manipulate the game, and that's why they didn't allow the first basket and essentially baited him into a low percentage shot on the non-foul -- but then I realized that would require a level of coordination and sophistication that the officiating crew wouldn't possess. It just happened, and I don't know why.

I do think it might help explain why Paul didn't shoot when he had Ellis in the air in the final minutes. Not only had this crew not given him the benefit of calls, they'd seemed to work against him, particularly when he got too clever. Paul's 'shoot during the intentional foul' strategy is like Sam Cassell's old 'fall down when the defender bumps you' trick -- if you get the call, it's great. But if you don't it's a turnover. Perhaps with Ellis in the air, he was thinking that this crew might leave their whistles silent, or worse still, call an offensive foul, if he allowed Ellis to come down on him as he was taking the shot. Probably 95% of the time with a defender in that situation, the offensive player will jump forward and shoot, and a shooting foul will be called. Maybe in Paul's mind the odds were a little different last night.

The calls against Griffin had a more direct impact on the game. Griffin had scored 21 points on 10 shots, and the Warriors clearly had to answer for him. But he was limited to 29 minutes because of foul trouble, and all of the last three were debatable calls. The fifth foul in particular, with Griffin simply running down court and Ellis veering over to initiate contact, was a huge call. It's not an uncommon call, but that doesn't make it easy to accept.

But the officials didn't lose this game. The Clippers were in position to win down the stretch, and simply didn't get it done. That's cause for concern. As is the fact that Chris Paul hasn't put an entire game together in over a week. The Clippers will go as far as Paul can take them -- if he continues to struggle for long stretches of games, the Clippers will continue to struggle as well.

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The last line sums it up

Paul needs to play much better for this team to win. He cant score all of his points in one quarter or one half, and then do nothing for the rest of the game. Also, every single play involves him and a pick and roll, usually with Griffin. I understand it works a lot, but Paul dribbles way too much. There is no ball movement, and CP3 is largely to blame.

No ball movement

Paul does hold the ball too long. Even though he is holding it to set someone up, he’s still holding the ball like other ballhogs (kobe, melo) which makes an offense stagnant. Ball movement (along w/ player movement) is essential for a good offensive flow. I wish our Clips moved the ball more consistently and
made cuts when necessary instead of ball watch. Why doesn’t Griffin cut to the bucket more on the PnR? Even if there isn’t a great opportunity for him to score, I think 2 guys would try getting in his way which leads to an open shot for another player.

In Paul’s defense, I trust him w/ the ball more than any other Clipper.

Seeing the Knicks makes me wonder...

why couldn’t the Clippers keep Novak around? Because a player like Novak is exactly what the Clippers could benefit from right now, someone who can hit that 3 pt shot when needed the most and who can stretch out defenses by just being that threat from outside, you know, like the SPURS!

p.s. wonder how many thought I’d bring up that Asian kid whose name I don’t have to mention…….haaaa

that Asian kid has some problem with his armor

The kid is good but, as some of us have been saying it, he still had to face some of the

best PGs in the League in full display, if you will.

And that happened against the Nets

D-Will had his number.

chris even with that game dwill had 1 of the best games he's ever had shooting, I think 6 three's, that wasn't necessarily jLin's fault. linsanity almost had a triple double himself.

he still damn good!

His stats look fine vs. DWill in their 2 matchups

1-1 vs. Dwill where the 1 loss was due mostly coz DWill had an amazing night shooting. Anybody would’ve had trouble guard DWill last night. If he can hold his own vs. Deron, I think he can play well vs. any pg in the league right now. Looks to me like the best way to guard him is to put a longer defender on him or just play good team D a la Chicago or Miami.

True but if the Knicks make the playoffs, hopefully, Lin will keep up. We know

how brutal playoffs can be. I only wish him the best. He is damn talented.

he destroyed john wall, beat out d. will..among others
I think you left out the biggest reason for the loss
17 to 9 in favor of the Warriors. It's hard to win close games if you don't take care of the ball. With CP3 the team is usually pretty good at taking care of the ball (as opposed to the Mo/Baron run offense) but last night they weren't so they lost.
yup

That was indeed huge.

Didn't see the game but

I always look at t/o ratios

turnovers don't matter so much if they don't effect the game at the time!

with jlin he’s handling the ball mostly & penetrating, he’s going to have that high t/o.

Turnovers matter

nd he wasn’t even talking about Lin. but yes, turnovers matter.

Turnovers most definitely matter!

That’s a lost possession and an added possession to the other team. If they score on a turnover, it’s almost as if we were put down by 4. We lose 2 points and they gain 2 points, pretty simple.

As I said! "If they don't effect the game at the time"
Players with bad field goal shooting % are like shooting turnovers! yet we don't consider them as turnovers so that's why I said turnovers don't matter if they don't effect the game at the time.

I’m responding to someone about jeremy lin in complaint of high t/o rate.

jeremy Lin ... I don't think his high t/o hurts his team as much as people might think.
Off topic but what's the general perception of Raja Bell?

I know he’s old, but he can defend against big 2s (which is currently a weakness of the Clippers), and has been on a hot streak of 3 pointers lately. Seems like he would be an upgrade over Foye if the Clips made a move for him, or am I missing something here?

Would be a nice pick up

and he has one year left on his deal which MIGHT make Utah want to deal him for our trade exception. Would work out best if the Jazz start losing a little more and fall out of the playoff race before March 15.

We give the Jazz the Sniper and Gomes for Bell?
no

You just offer the trade exception. Jazz save money this year and next year. No one wants Gomes you need a sweetener to trade him.

The Jazz have not "given up" yet

I don’t think they are looking to cut salary, they still think they can sneak in 7 or 8 seed probably.

as I mentioned

Ideally the Jazz start to lose ground on the playoffs. Bell doesn’t fit into their long term outlook anyways and the probably prefer a lottery pick over a first round whopping by the Thunder.

Not really

I’m sure they would prefer the revenue generated from Playoff games….lottery pick or not. They’re too good for the pick to be super-high anyway via bouncing balls. I’m a fan of Bell’s tho.

If the playoffs started today

they would likely have the 12th pick. But they are just a couple of games of moving all the way own to 8th.

Playoff revenue is about 1m a game. Would be quite an accomplishment for them to even get 3 home games out of it.

I'm all over that
Watched the game on replay because was out for the night

Seems like even though Udoh was hitting his jumpers game came down to the 2:48 mark when we went with Griffin and Evans they blew the game open

Like some folks on this blog would say, "Chris Paul is washed up. Trade him

now!" :-)

+100 on why CP didn't shoot while Ellis was in the air

I thought the same thing.They were blowing other calls that night. This isn’t the reason they lost no but it played with his head in that instance. I wish he would’ve taken the chance though. But You never know with these refs.

Foye is a horrible SG. Mo Williams needs to start at SG

Trade Foye and Gomes for TMac to play as 2nd string SF. Bring in Eddie house as 2nd String SG.

This lineup will make the clips true contenders

PG – CP3/Bledsoe
SG – Mo/Eddie House
SF – Butler/TMac
PF – Griffin/KMart
C – DJ/Reggie Evans

Mo is not starting at SG on this team. VDN likes him coming off the bench, he doesn’t have the size to play SG (against a lot of opposing SGs anyway) and he gets plenty of playing time coming off the bench as it is.

I do love TMac though.

T Mac would be nice

Again though, what do we trade him for?

TPE? Future draft picks? Bledsoe?

They dont need Foye or Gomes, that is for sure.

T Mac plays for the Hawks, right? They're struggling mightily as of late.
Yes but they dont need anything we have

They need a guy who can replace at least some of what Horford did for them in terms of post scoring, defending, and rebounding.

No, they need cap relief

They spent way too much on Johnson, and they are still a middle-of-the-road team. They aren’t contenders, and they aren’t in the lottery. This has always been their problem, so our TPE could actually give them flexibility to improve to being a contending team, and all it would cost them is a player they aren’t using much. Our expiring players do nothing for them.

I'm all for T-Mac

Another ball handler (no Reggie jokes please…) would just help with keeping turnovers at a minimum.

Reggie handles balls quite often
Damn you LJ Hann.
I try to refrain

but you set me up beautifully

No, he explicitly discouraged your predictable and trite joke
EGG ZACK T LEE
Eddie House?

He’s the SAME as Mo, only worse.

Much worse

And a lot older

I would rather play Eddie House over Randy Foye any day. The primary function of the SG is to shoot 3's. Foye is a horrible scorer, Eddie House can consistently explode on offense.
He has not been a good player for about 2 years plus

Look at it this way.

In the playoffs last year, the Heat point guards were Bibby, Chalmers, and House, yet House got no PT. How sad is that.

Eddie House is underrated, he just needs more PT
House is very old news
You know we have reached a new level when

1) we now are the single biggest draw to date on the road in the NBA and 2) you go to the GSW Blog and they are as giddy as we were last year when we beat the Heat. They are all very respectful and not denigrating the Clippers like many blogs do. But man, are they happy!

That's good. We've reached a higher level now when it comes to respect

from other teams.

2) you go to the GSW Blog and they are as giddy as we were last year when we beat the Heat.

“Don’t get ahead of yourself,” Warriors fans get giddy on any wins we get. It does not matter if we won against the worst team in the league, or the best team in the league. That’s our normal reaction… the reason we are one of the best fans in the NBA.

You mean until now you guys is so insecure. That you have Cp3 on board and still think that your team is a mediocre team. You base it on GSW blog that your team reach the next level because we became giddy.

Let me tell you something Clippers fans. As long as you have CP3, you guys gonna be consider as one of the Elite team. Look at what you guys have done to the Hornets. EG does not want to play. Kaman is their best player. and they got 7 wins. Last year Hornets put Lakers on their knees during the playoffs. I guess some of you remember that.

All I have to say on the matter...

And I’m not a VDN hater, I just find him baffling at times, especially recently.

DJ's inability to rebound baffles me at times
UDOn't mess with UDOH!!

I hope DeAndre’s massive contract was worth it, Clipper fans! Ekpe made Jordan his biotch!

Ekpe Udoh is good though

I read a post on Golden State of Mind that said he had the 4th best adjusted +/- minutes in the league.

He is just an unknown.

not even

6th pick in the draft 2 years ago. Not like he is out of nowhere…

Just one game.

DJ is still the man—and a young man at that. He’ll keep getting better, he’ll keep playing smarter, and then he’ll be earning all that cash. Seems like he’s not mentally consistent yet, but with CP3 at the helm I’m sure he’ll start bringing his game-face every time in no time.

As the Warriors are my other team, I feel qualified to speak on this...

The dubs dumped Lin just for a shot at overpaying DJ (who is overpaid for his talent, but not overpaid as a center in a league with no true centers that play defense). The dubs wasted their amnesty on Charlie Bell instead of using it on Andris, but this is because they went all out after DJ and found themselves with no center, so they couldn’t lose Biedrins.

I am much happier with how the Clippers handled the DJ situation than with how the Warriors handled the DJ situation.

But yeah, Udoh is playing like a beast. FINALLY a string of successful picks. No more of this Anthony Randolph Brandon Wright crap… Curry and Udoh are legitimate building blocks. I think they need to move Ellis, while he’s playing like a superstar, to get a proper 2-guard. But those are hard to find too. Maybe Ellis for sign-and-trade Eric Gordon, when Gordon is healthy again?

Totally worth it

hope getting rid of Lin and losing the amnesty was worth your offer

david lee and biedrins

those are some good contracts.

The Benches Must Be Deeper These Days
. The guy can’t do everything for 48 minutes.

In 1971-72 eight players played 72 or more games and averaged 42 or more MPG.

Interestingly enough five of those eight were 30 years older or more.

Wilt was the oldest. He was 35 years old played all 82 games and averaged 42.3 MPG

Havlicek led the league in minutes played. At 31 he played 3,698 minutes that season. He averaged 45.1 MPG for 82 games.

I'm confused..

why 71-72?

cause it's the best example, I would guess
There are lots of best examples of stuff here and there

I just don’t get how he found it. You don’t just stumble on information like that. Like he went to all that effort to find all of that really interesting information, but what compelled him to dig that deep? I very much appreciate Buddahfan’s hustle, I just don’t think I’ll ever understand how he gets from point A to point Z. And it’s so deliberate too. Buddahfan, the Word-Capitalizing Enigma of Clips Nation.

He is Buddah

he knows

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