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post. a real change in culture out here

Dawool Huh - January 5, 2012 reply

Antonio McDyess would be a great addition no doubt.

After the first couple of nights hearing that baby scream so loud i think he
might gives us a call.

ENCUEROMAN - January 5, 2012 reply

Agreed - he'll be begging to play in 2 weeks

According to Barkley (during his appearance on The Daily Show)

After three months of retirement you get sick of it.

shay - January 5, 2012 reply

Come one Raffo

You made it sound like you were going to break a big news story. However, it’s more speculation Not that speculating isn’t cool, but still.

After the latest Marc Spears article regarding Gordon/Kaman, I wouldn’t say everything is hunky dory. Perceptions are hard to shake. Still, it’s probably a top 10 destination now.

oasisman - January 5, 2012 reply

You mean where EJ whines about how jealous he is of Blake's stardom...

and Chris Kaman blames the Clippers for his own agent’s incompetence? LOL. Every relevant franchise has to deal with drama like that. Look no further than Lamar throwing a fit over feeling like he was “betrayed” by the Lakers.

82-0 - January 5, 2012 reply

Well...

I can see how EJ feels overshadowed. He played 3 years for the Clips (Blake just 1) and 95% of the attention was being spent on BG (and EJ as his sidekick). Not to mention those gawd-awful ads DTS bought months ago declaring both guys will be here for their entire careers. That was incredibly cheesy.

Kaman’s agent was probably on the phone with the Clippers to get the details. Kaman should be happy though, he made a reported 1.6 million more because of a trade kicker in his contract. Also he’ll probably get flipped to a good team later and get more PT/shots on the Hornets than being in a time share with DJ (and to a lesser extent BG).

EJ also had his personal issues with Baron

Actually what I like more

Is that the article came out, and aside from a clone-article at CBS.com, there haven’t so far been any opinion pieces regarding the matter. While some parts of the media are still trying to promote the old Clipper image, the opinion writers (who often paint themselves as representatives of the public) don’t seem to think that it’s worth writing about. Hopefully it stays that way ;)

Erik O - January 5, 2012 reply

The price of success?

So Eric Gordon complained to a reporter? Didn’t we know that was coming? He’s disappointed because he went from a team with a future to a team that is a bunch of players. I’d be upset too. I’m sorry Gordon’s gone, but… I don’t feel sorry for him. And Kaman lobs a bomb about professionalism? Was he treated poorly in Clipperland? He made 12 million bucks here. Boo hoo.

Was the title of the article misleading? Wasn’t my intention. For me, the Clippers are a slow-moving, heavily emotional journey. A few days ago, I watched a bunch of fans argue heatedly about the potential acquisition of DeMarcus Cousins. A player I thought the Clippers didn’t need and probably don’t want. And I realize that last year, or any year before now, we wouldn’t even be having the argument. That’s news!

Kaman made alot more than $12M here, no?

And I generally agree. it’s ok that players are upset that they get traded away from the Clips. Btw when has that ever happened before?

Reporters need to write stories. Apparently they found one. Doesn’t mean it’s worth reading.

Yes... I wrote that this morning pre-coffee

I wrote 60 million, then changed it to 12M last year only I left out the last year part. Both players (guys we like, right?) reacted bitterly when leaving. It’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Good point

if they broke into a flash mob at the news of being traded it would definitely be a bad sign.

Recipe for success

Stay near the bottom for a few years, draft a few attractive assets plus one dazzling superstar, showcase assets until a fortuitous trade rolls around, couple young and underpaid superstar with expensive in-his-prime superstar, manage enough cap space to sign another wily veteran or two, and BOOM, you’re on the map!

Donald is just an arrogant and self absorbed businessman. He wants value for his buck, regardless of his reputation. He wants this value, even if it means ruining his reputation. Looking at the big picture, 30 years in the making, he could have made this a lot easier for himself, but now at last he has his box office smash. At bottom, then, there’s not much new going on here. As long as attendance is up, I do not expect him to spend extra at the trade deadline. He was never really a tightwad, he was always willing to make the right investment, but I still don’t think his priority is winning. He will need to be convinced of the financial incentive.

SilverClip - January 5, 2012 reply

I don't know about that...

I think he’s smart enough to realize that in order to KEEP that attendance up, the team has to keep winning. If it means eking into luxury tax territory, so be it.

82-0 - January 5, 2012 reply

He will need to be convinced of that

He’s an old dog.

SilverClip - January 5, 2012 reply

...who doesn't know anything about basketball.

I agree it’d take a little buttering up. Not a whole lot, though.

Erik O - January 5, 2012 reply

The new luxury tax is a new reality...

Mark Cuban says the new luxury tax changes everything. That NO ONE will be able to go very high at all without crushing their very-limited profit potential. Is that just smoke? I don’t think so.
I think, right now, the only two teams who might be able to go deep into the new lux tax (2013-14) will be the Knicks and possibly the Lakers… and only because of their media resources.
To my mind, If Cuban’s not going high, neither is Sterling. So you’ll have your two or three big pieces (for the Clips Griffin/CP/Jordan) and then you bring in other pieces year by year. Things will change radically once Griffin moves to the max and Paul goes from 16M to 20M.
I know it’s crazy, but with the Clips salary structure what it is right now, the Clips have a two year window to put together a deep, relatively cheap team. DTS and the front office have to look at this situation and say, “Do we have enough to win it all THIS year or NEXT?” Because if you do, you have to shoot for it now.
The good news is that they seem to realize that.

+1

Of course since the Clips are in a large market, they could take advantage of the current situation and up their media deal too.

Precisely.

But the new tax is soooo expensive. It’s a hard cap for everyone but a very few. But it comes with a lot of unknowns. Will the lux tax money actually trickle down to the have-nots? Stern has said that there’s a cap of 50M that will be shared. If there’s more, what happens to the rest?

I should tell Stern about my student loans

Maybe he’ll feel sympathetic and toss me a bone. “C’mon man, what’s $80k out or $50,000,000? I’ll do your laundry for a week too.”

Organ donation?

You only need one kidney, and what’s your liver really doing for you?

That’s certainly an option!

Hey, don't discount my liver

It’s working very hard for me right now. It deserves a good strong drink.

Thretch - January 6, 2012 reply

Ouch 80k?

Which private school do you go to?

Did.

Pretty sure Erik O’s out in the professional world these days. And if eighty grand is the whole number (it’s probably not), that’s not really too bad is it?
Spoken by a guy with a kid in high school. There’s a reason I USED to be a STO.

It's the whole number

Scholarships are the bomb diggity. LMU doesn’t really give out much financial aid unfortunately.

But honestly, if your kid is the type to stay on top of stuff, it’s worth it to spend 2 years in community college doing the stupid core classes (history 101, micro and macro econ, art, etc.) instead of spending all that money for a 4 year university to have a supremely overqualified professor teach a dumbed down level 1 class. I have a lot of friends who tried that route, but they weren’t proactive about the things they needed to be proactive about, mainly getting classes. To succeed in a CC (where I spent my summers to make up for lost units when I transferred), you have to not only be on the ball with registering for classes, but when you don’t get into all the classes you want, you have to crash the classes and just attend anyway. Most profs will let you pull up an extra seat if you give them puppy dog eyes. Anyway, CC can definitely be a trap, but only for people who aren’t on the ball. Otherwise it’s just a great way to save money.

For undergrad?

80k is pretty sizeable, I only owed 7k coming out of a UC and paid it off the first year.

long live Europe

I is definitely cheaper here

my english and typing skill are quite bad

for the moment

Private vs Public

That’s the difference right there. Same education for MUCH MUCH MORE MONEY!

Actually I had problems at SDSU because the class sizes allowed me too much freedom to be lazy and not participate. I have no self control, so I needed small classes. Since I got a nice stable white collar job that pays me well enough to pay down this debt pretty quickly, I feel like it was worth it. But i have a lot of co-workers from UCs, so they get the last laugh.

LMU alum

But I spent my first year at SDSU and got scholarships and stuff to minimize the damage. LMU was $40k per by the time I got there (including room & board) :(

My daughter (High School Senior)

was just accepted to LMU as one of her early decision choices.

Does that mean she'll live at home?

I mean if she chooses to go there?
Do you want her to go there?
Do you even get a vote?
Now that you know Erik went there… how exactly does that influence your decision?

Haha

Now that you know Erik went there… how exactly does that influence your decision?

Are you implying the value of a degree from LMU just went down 50%?

I am a stand up citizen!

Actually LMU is great because of the class sizes. Really, really excellent Accounting and Engineering programs, as well as their acting/drama programs. Probably one of the most beautiful campuses with a fantastic location. And now the basketball program seems like it’s less of a joke than when I was there.

Plus she’ll be able to enjoy the ridiculous library that MY tuition increased 5%-10% a year to pay for. I still go back to campus a lot for firm recruiting events just to enjoy it. There’s a freaking fireplace in one lounge area, just for reading enjoyment.

I loved LMU, even though I was a day student and never lived there.

This is cause I was a junior transfer student so I lived in Westwood for a year then moved a little more east the next 5 years (undergrad and grad at LMU). Great school, small classes, beautiful campus, a good mix of students. Go Lions!

chrisd - January 6, 2012 reply

She would not live at home

even though I live about 20 minutes from the place. I am more inclined to her going there knowing he is gone. Although as Eric stated above, she received much better scholarship money from SMU and TCU if she goes to Texas. We are waiting for other schools also- Vanderbilt and USC,UCSD before deciding.

Obviously a smart kid...

Good on you.

Thank you

She is smart and I am a smart ass!

UCSD is a great school if she's the science type

Wait a minute

“I am more inclined to her going there knowing he is gone.”

in Belgium you just choose the university you want

no requirements at all (sauf for a high school degree)

Interesting little college funding chat

Happens to be a zhiv area of expertise—as in how to spend ridiculous amounts of money sending kids to school, after being relatively thrifty with my own lengthy and unresolved, complex educational process.

citizen zhiv - January 7, 2012 reply

this will also apply to our concurrents

my guess: teams that went deep into the lux tax to get depth behind a superstar like the Lakers the past few years and the Mavs under Cuban won’t feasible. Bird rights are going to worth a lot less.

It will be interesting to see what this does to a team like Miami.

plus we don't have any really bad contracts for the moment

so with some sound management and the right vets we should be fine.

It is also the reason I would keep Bledsoe around for the next 2 years. You can’t go wrong on rookie deals.

Our "concurrents"...

Hmm… it’s a good word, but I’m not sure of the reference. Is that our current players under contract?

sorry the word has a different meaning in dutch

rivals or competitors is what I mean

mean=ment

pffff… frustrating

Ah! I misunderstood.

But my dictionary tells me “concurrent” is a synonym for “contemporary”… so your usage makes perfect sense. My bad.

it is just one of those words that sound english

but means something completely different.

Keeping everyone at or below the luxury tax line is a nice bonus for the Clips.

Since DTS will never go above that line, the new tax has brought everyone down to our (cheap) level. Muahaha.

Our advantages in a somewhat level playing field

are still LA, Blake and CP3. The NBA middle class will continued to get squeezed and hopefully key complimentary pieces like Caron will sign for $4M a season rather than $8M a season. Will also mean guys like Cookie will be in rotations but I guess that’s the new reality.

no cookies!

we saw what they did to Baron. Don’t let CP3 have any cookies!

A strange thing starts happening to this kind of businessman when they reach his age, though

They start thinking about their legacy. It’s all about squeezing out every last nickel for the first 70 years and then, boom, all of a sudden they realize the end is near and they start thinking about how they’re going to be remembered. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Sterling’s ego is now telling him he needs an NBA Championship for this very reason.

boltsfan21 - January 5, 2012 reply

Good point bolts

Plus, a talent like Blake Griffin is liable to excite even the most jaded basketball owners.

ghost_ride - January 5, 2012 via mobile reply

He was ready earlier

He just hired the wrong people

O.T. but how much does NBA TV cost?

I hate watching the Clippers on crappy internet feeds.

ClipperBEAST - January 5, 2012 reply

like 200 or 400 bucks...

one of those

Dawool Huh - January 5, 2012 reply

Nowhere close to 400$ for Direct TV

I have been considering buying it and it is around 170 for this shortened season. I think Dawool is right on with the 200, but I believe they adjusted their prices.

Not League Pass.. NBA TV

I checked a couple of days ago and it said $7.99 a month. We’re probably talking about two different things.

ClipperBEAST - January 5, 2012 reply

When I saw Solomon Jones name, I was expecting the start of another 500+ thread to nowhere.

PV Mike - January 5, 2012 reply

I'm happy to participate ;-)

harder without the ball jokes

indy818 - January 5, 2012 reply

Clips are going after Kenyon Martin,,,,, McDyess headed for the glue factory

DTS has it on his bucket list to win a championship. You can’t take all that money with you!

anyone with insider can get the article mentioning the Clips and Martin

going with the theme of John’s article, this would have never been mentioned before by ESPN

for those of you who don't subscribe

UPDATE: In his Thursday chat, ESPN’s John Hollinger tossed out Kenyon Martin as a possible addition for the Clippers once he’s available, commentary of which we’ve noted below.

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UPDATE: As noted earlier Tuesday, the Clippers elected to sign Jones out of the below bunch.

Turner reported that even with the signing of Jones the Clippers also still have interest in Antonio McDyess, even though he announced his retirement.

The team does have one roster spot still open, so such interest in McDyess — even if he doesn’t come out of retirement — could mean the team may still fill that last spot with another big.

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After their strong starting frontcourt of Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan (and with reserve Reggie Evans currently injured and Chris Kaman gone to the Hornets in the Chris Paul trade), the Clippers are thin up front.

But according to Broderick Turner of the Los Angeles Times, the team worked out D.J. Mbenga, Hilton Armstrong, Solomon Jones and Dan Gadzuric on Monday.

So any of these players could be added to the frontline for depth.

Joel Przybilla had previously been listed as a possible frontcourt edition for the team, but it’s possible he could just head to retirement.

— Ryan Corazza

ESPN’s John Hollinger

Martin’s decision

“Very interesting to see how he chooses to play this. Miami, Dallas and L.A. all already have two power forwards that are better than he is, and I don’t think Denver wants him back. Clippers maybe?”

How about . . . SHAQ DADDY?

I said that during the game

I don’t know if his body can take it, but dang it would be great.

mustang6944 - January 5, 2012 reply

Hey - all we want are boards - just go stand under the basket big fella and tell

little Bynum to GTFO.

Just the comedy factor alone - worth its weight in gold

Meaning - taunting Kobe relentlessly day in and day out

I’d throw $100 at it

Ha, seriously!

ghost_ride - January 5, 2012 via mobile reply

Sign him!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Words can’t express how much I’d love to see Shaq on the Clips. Just the thought of him mocking Kobe every day is enough for me.

82-0 - January 5, 2012 reply

Makes sense - likely buddy of Chauncey

Maybe Melo with all the turmoil will want out of NY soon and come here too and restructure his deal.

Now that would be hilarious – Melo, BG, CP3, KMart, Chauncy, Caron

Gilbert et al would lose it and attack Staples with real AK47s.

Getting Kmart AND Melo?

Jax, I’m sincerely concerned. You sounded just like a laker fan back there.

cliptakular - January 5, 2012 reply

Yeah

You were one “and D12” away from being called a Laker fan.. Anyways, I think JR. Smith sounds more interested than Martin, but I would love either of them. I am thinking too far into the future on this one, but I think it would be a great offseason if we can retain Billups, sign Smith, and sign Martin. I think that is reasonable if we play with our contracts a little bit, but that team would be scary. I would hope that an older Billups would be fine coming off the bench with his age, and a Billups + Smith + Martin bench is just nasty.

Our current team will be good once they gel

were you a Nuggets fan or something before Lob City?

KidJustin - January 5, 2012 reply

Sorry - retract

Martin would make sense

as would JR Smith. Can teams do sign and trades? Have the Nuggets sign and trade Martin for part (or all) of the 3.8 exception? And use the 2.5 million exception on Smith (or vice versa?). Any player we sign for the exception, will we have their bird rights next summer?

ClipperChuck - January 5, 2012 reply

Pretty sure they can't sign and trade this season.

I’m not exactly sure when the deadline is THIS season, but I’m guessing their arrival in March would be a bit too late. But seriously, if we can get them NEXT season, I’m completely fine with that too. We will have Foye coming off the books and we can amnesty Cook/Gomes (mostly Cook would be unneeded if we sign Martin)

Gordon for President - January 5, 2012 reply

trade deadline

LJ Hann - January 5, 2012 reply

Cook is expiring

honestly people it is not that much work the look these thing up

BelgianClipper - January 5, 2012 reply

Neil said it during the CP3 intro presser:

“We’re a destination franchise now”.

And it’s true.

I’m hoping we pick McDyess up later in the year in the vein of BOS picking up the retired P.J. Brown mid-season only to see him become their best big man off the bench during the Finals against the Lakers.

you would take McDyess over Kenyon Martin?

just wondering why?

he can make a jump shot? he's not hotheaded? he's a veteran? he has playoff and championship experience?

he may be the worse player, but he may be the better signing

Dawool Huh - January 5, 2012 reply

I think it would be a better signing to get Martin, but mainly because

He would be in shape. Let’s be realistic, do you think McDyess is getting/keeping in shape? Especially with his kid coming around? I don’t think so. There is no point in signing someone and then waiting several weeks for him to be in basketball condition. If Martin really wants to play in the NBA (which he does because he isn’t playing in the CBA anymore) he will get into shape. However, McDyess would be a cheaper option and that could benefit us.

Martin could also be financially out of our league

Would he play for 2.5M? He is easily worth more.

BelgianClipper - January 5, 2012 reply

Martin couldn't dominate the CBA

Something amiss with those knees perhaps.

ganima - January 5, 2012 reply

Kenyon has never been a very good scorer

normally just some dunks (especially during the Nets heyday). He was a good defender last year so he’d give the Clippers 12-15 good minutes behind Blake if he were here. Whether he’s willing to take such reduced minutes is a question (but if he comes here then obviously he’s willing to play that role).

the problem with Kenyon & JR is I don't really think of them as high character guys

and don’t want them messing up our team mojo.

chrisd - January 6, 2012 reply

Both guys are liked by teammates

and Kenyon was on those successful Nets teams so I don’t see how he’s a guy who’d hurt team chemistry

G Karl doesn't like JR

Headcase who should be starting but becuase of his attitude doesn’t.

I think I'd rather get JR Smith

mustang6944 - January 5, 2012 reply

Michael Finley?

I saw that he wanted to comeback. I didn’t read the article, only the headline so I don’t know what’s behind it all….but wouldn’t he work out as the taller SG we need?

KidJustin - January 5, 2012 via iPhone app reply

Can Cuttino still play?

cliptakular - January 5, 2012 reply

They showed Cat on the jumbotron last night.

I guess he was the game. He looks old. A lot of gray.

Jonee - January 5, 2012 reply

yea barely noticed him...

KidJustin - January 5, 2012 reply

The graying/white hair makes it even better.

He held his own against the youngsters at the Drew League this past summer.

So are Ostertag and Ricky Davis

Let’s sign them all!

ganima - January 5, 2012 reply

yahhhh

Ricky “I get buckets” Davis! Superstar of the Maine Red Claws!

osamu - January 5, 2012 reply

Nazr Mohammad?

What would it take to get that guy outta OKC?

clipdood - January 5, 2012 reply

I'd assume a lot

They’re not exactly deep at the 5

creepy clippers kid

look at this kid hes got guts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k58M-mEFb3M&feature=colike

shanteeek - January 5, 2012 reply

buddy

you joined clipsnation 3days ago
you have 3 comments
they are all this link
and when I clicked on the link, the description says that it is you
so stop your spamming

Agreed

It isn’t even creepy. It is just an asshat who stares at the camera and thinks its funny to open his eyes really wide. I remember when I thought that was funny in middle school. And yes, I know it is you., and this is all directed towards you. Please, stop posting this, it’s not even funny.

I'm not going to hold my breath on Mcdyess, but it would make for an interesting story.

He’s longed for the elusive title throughout his career playing on teams such as Detroit or San Antonio, but could realize his championship dreams by signing with the team that drafted him. A team that he didn’t want to play for. It would be a full circle experience.

I still believe that we need to at that veteran big to shore up the bench and further our playoff hopes. I know everyone is not a Kenyon Martin fan, but I believe he would be the best fit. He’s tough and he’s a good interior defender. He could teach a few things to Blake and DJ even if he is only here for a couple of months. He has been teammates to both Chauncey and Reggie. He was rumored to be leaning toward re-teaming with Melo, but the Clippers’ situation could prove to be much more attractive to him when it is time to make a decision.

Lawler 4ever - January 5, 2012 reply

I think he also brings passion to the game.

Although he does have attitude, I also think he has that desire and hunger for a ring, just like JR. Smith, and CP3 do. Yes, every player wants to win a championship, but some players just have that drive that will make them perform at 120%, and I think these Nugget players have had that. With their team, they were often close to the Western Conference finals, so I am sure they are tired of knocking on the door; it also has to do with how the Knicks do, if they keep playing like they are, I’m sure nobody will want to play with them.

He could also serve as an enforcer.

In all honesty, any veteran that we could sign would probably be thrilled to join the team if we’re in the position to truly compete in the playoffs. If you look at where Chauncey’s head was at when we first acquired him, you’ll see that he’s now in. He’s going around and saying we’re a dangerous team with so many weapons. I know it’s early, but he’s locked in right now. We have holes, but we have a lot of strengths. Someone like Martin, Smith or McDyess could easily see themselves as the missing piece come March.

Agreed and he's someone who can recruit

Has McDyess ever said anything about the Clippers?

I don’t remember if he had particularly strong feelings either way. He was a Clippers draft pick for what a hour before they traded him for Rodney Rogers and Brent Barry?

I recall him signaling he didn't want to play for the Clips

and who could blame him back then, but I couldn’t find anything on Google. I remember watching him in the tourney that year tear it up.

I don't remember that.

I do remember feeling that the Rogers and a much later pick for the McDyess pick (#2) was a terrible trade.

Memory probably off

I didn’t like the trade either but was always a RR fan. Didn’t buy into the next Sir Charles hype but thought he would be a matchup nightmare with his combination of size, agility and outside touch. Sad about his current paralysis.

Sorry, this is completely random.

Has anyone watched this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6v-bW6wxoY&feature=youtu.be ? I know it is not Clipper related, but as a basketball fan, I am DISGUSTED by this team. #34 should be banned from any basketball game. He hits the other players as hard as he can, and he smirks because he knows that he got away with something dirty.

I wanna kick his ass..

He surely deserves one..

ClipperBEAST - January 5, 2012 reply

There is just something about his smirk.

In one of the later fouls, which I thought to be the worst (when he threw the kid down on the floor), I became infuriated with him. The fact that he commits these fouls (and I think they said these were ALL in the first) and he has the nerve to have some sense of achievement? It makes me SICK. I have to hand it to the other players, if I was in there position, I’m not sure if I could get up and just accept the two free throws. I would have most likely confronted the kid or yell at the refs.

Yeah I saw that

It’s ok, he’s probably never going to play ball again because of this and how the media’s blown it up. Oh, and also because of his stomach.

Erik O - January 5, 2012 reply

one team was playing basketball

the other wrestling

KidJustin - January 6, 2012 reply

I saw this earlier tonight and it pissed me off.

If he would have pulled that on me, I would have gotten ejected. I’m not saying I would have just went up to him and started punching, but I would have definitely caught him with a couple of elbows at the very least.

He needs to be suspended indefinitely and the refs need to be suspended (if not removed altogether) as well.

as a high school backetball player

I garuntee you that no teammates that I have ever had would stand for that. I wouldn’t have gone after the guy until foul #4, which was the worst. If I had been on the court when he was standing over my teammate i would have shoved him. After any of the fouls I would have been screaming at the refs.

It’s obvious this team can’t play if they have to pull these tactics. They’re scrubs. Are these middle school kids, they are tiny. This can’t be high school. Someone needs to clean this up.

tenkaistar - January 6, 2012 reply

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Remember to vote our clips to the All-Star Game as frequently as possible!

Pawn - January 5, 2012 reply

If there is a major increase in spending....

perhaps Donald had a deal like this in the works if he could land it;

Takebb909 - January 5, 2012 reply

that is a nice looking shirt!

I'm not a big WalMart supporter

But man they have great deals on cheap-versions of NBA stuff. Really good for playing ball in and chopping up into work out shirts.

wow! i want an Al-Farouq Aminu shirt too!!

KidJustin - January 6, 2012 reply

lol

Anyone watch the Lakers vs Portland?

The Clippers had much better defense than the Lakers did. Bynum and Pau hurt themselves by leaving the Portland bigs wide open, and they had NO answer to Gerald Wallace. Kobe was effective on whoever he was guarding at all times, but Fisher and Blake pretty much gave no defense to the team. I have to say, Bynum is much stronger offensively, but his defense is more suited for a center like Dwight. On the other hand, DeAndre is more suited for someone like LeMarcus Aldridge. Overall, watching the Lakers’ get taken apart by this team we just beat makes me feel good! :)

+1

Next best thing to a Clipper win.

was thinking the same thing

Gerald wallace had ZERO vs. the clippers! they also handled houston much easier than the lakers

clipdood - January 5, 2012 reply

Granted both of the teams we played weren't shooting quite as well.

But I like to think that is our defense ;) . But in all honesty, our defense had to play some sort of roll on their bad shooting. Wallace was obviously having a horrible night, but I attribute most of that to DeAndre’s physical presence and Caron’s willingness to stay up on him. Houston passed up on more 3 pointers because they really had no option; it was either shoot a contested three or pass the ball. Overall, I think the Lakers have a different kind of defense they play with Bynum, but I think ours is better simply because we are well rounded. Our team defense consists of an extremely solid PG, an undersized yet strong SG, an older but willing defender, a tad easy yet athlethic PF, and a C who isn’t afraid to guard outside while holding his own on the inside. The Lakers basically have an old, nearly useless defender in Fisher, a solid defender in Kobe, a weak defender in… whoever they start at 3, a soft player in Pau, and a big who can push around the biggest but is uncomfortable outside his low post defense.

Anyone see CP3 on Kimmel tonight?

Kimell was hating real, real hard. I can’t wait for the Clippers to go further than the Lakers and put some of this nonsense to rest.

thanks didn't even realize he was on

think I found the link to the interview online:
http://abc.go.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel-live/video-detail/interviews/chris-paul-on-jimmy-kimmel-live-part-1/pl_PL5520979/vd_VD55161558

Jimmy’s shtick about the lakers/clippers thing got old pretty fast, but CP did an admirable job brushing him off. Really wasn’t much substance to the interview other than “blah blah blah lakers, blah blah blah lakers lakers lakers”

osamu - January 6, 2012 reply

Truth

Kim el just made the douche list.

*Kimmel

Stupid auto correct

I do wonder what Lebron got CP3 for his wedding gift

probably something stupid like a custom HEAT jersey w/ Paul on the back.

osamu - January 6, 2012 reply

Laker fans are getting extremely desperate for a point guard.

It is obvious they need a pointguard, and fast. However, they don’t have any ways of obtaining a decent one while retaining Bynum+Pau+Kobe. Although this is pretty far fetched, the most logical fan said:
Bynum for Dwight and Gasol for Deron (who will be sign and traded). I know this is far fetched, but I think that proves my point to how desperate fans are getting to see this. Honestly, if the Lakers had some secondary players, I would actually believe this trade is possible. Bynum is putting up monster stats and I suppose they can fight for a deal for Dwight assuming nothing huge is offered. Deron would retain his large contract with a sign and trade, and the Nets get back a solid player.
Personally, my favorite were the fans who want Mo Williams and Bledsoe. Many of them were basically saying they would give up ANYONE on their roster aside from Bynum+Kobe+Pau for Bledsoe :). Hell, if we get World Peace or McRoberts+Troy Murphy for Bledsoe + Gomes (or Cook or something) I would be ecstatic! It sounds like they REALLY need a PG, maybe we should consider sending Bledsoe their way ;). I like him, but there is no way they become contenders with him, but shhhh, they don’t know that!

im too high on bledsoe

too sennd him to a place who we have to play 4 times a year

Don't you think Metta World Peace or McBob+Murphy would fit perfectly?

I like Bledsoe too and the last thing I would want to do is help our cross town rivals, but World Peace would give us the defensive forward we need to compete. McRoberts + Murphy would NEVER happen, because they wouldn’t have backcourt backup, but those two would pretty much complete our 2nd team! I don’t want to help them in anyway, but I think we should also look to help ourselves :)

hate hate hate the idea of ron artest. he is overpaid and a terrible offensive liability at this point

mcroberts and urphy would be a good fit, I agree. but I value bledsoe higher than that

Seriously

You can’t use the nickname Lob City when you have a SF who can barely touch the rim. And McBob/Murphy don’t play D, which is our problem right now. Reggie will help the rebounding issue more than either of those two would.

Ron Ron Artest might've helped the Clippers

But Metta World Peace is washed up.

boltsfan21 - January 6, 2012 reply

NEVER...

TRADE WITH THE LAKERS!

Hengtime81 - January 6, 2012 reply

Take a quick look today at the NBA Standings

Not sure I have ever seen the Clippers on top on their division since becoming a fan. Short lived? Perhaps. But still fun to see.

I'm pretty sure we were first at some point back in 05-06

Looking at a tough schedule

We could be 4-2 after Milwaukee but if you look at the glass as “half empty” the next 3 games are at Portland, Miami @home (Back to Back), then the Lakers. Potential record 4-5 or 5-4

Um more like 8-2.

Somehow we’ll get an extra W in there, even though there’s only 3 games. Trust me on this.

But seriously

Do not underestimate the fact that we will be really rested for those 3 games. It’s clearly playing a big factor this season. I’m thinking 5-4 or 6-3. The Lakers just aren’t that good.

yes, but bynum is gonna give us lots of problems!

ThaFoX - January 6, 2012 via Android app reply

My idea is to let Bynum score his 20 and grab down his 15.

I agree, he will give us problems. Let’s just do our best on him and focus on everyone else. If you noticed, the Lakers are completely useless at the point guard and small forward position, we should capitalize on that. Kobe has to have a MONSTER night just to keep them in the game, so I hope that the Clippers throw Caron on him and let Billups guard whoever the 3 is. Overall, I think we can capitalize on this game, because we can easily beat them. Let Bynum have his night. Hold Kobe to low-mid 20’s, and let Pau hurt himself like he always does. Then shut down Steve Blake off the bench with Mo. I think we can take this, not to mention the Lakers have an extremely rough schedule in terms of number of games…

Before his knee injuries.

agreed surf!

we can take them like we did in the preseason!

ThaFoX - January 7, 2012 via Android app reply

Check Out This Video Of McDyess Highlights

Blake has nothing on McDyess before McDyess’ knees went bad.

$#%^%&!!!!!

Antonio McDyess was a wonderful player who was an extraordinary athlete… a little smoother than Griffin but pretty close all around. But in terms of court sense, desire, will-to-win, and a half dozen other “intangibles” he can’t get within ten miles of Griffin. Knee injuries or not.
For most of his career, McDyess played second, third, or fourth banana. That’s who he is.
I wouldn’t trade Blake Griffin for five McDyesses.

I hope he was being facetious

McDyess was probably as explosive as Blake and had a decent turn-around 10 footer (he killed Penn or was it Penn St in the tourney with it), but as John R. pointed out he never carried a team or wanted to carry a team. He also didn’t have Blake’s handles.

Yikes

PLEASE don’t refer to Mr. Raffo as “John R.” That sent shivers down my spine.

boltsfan21 - January 6, 2012 reply

I was trying to figure out if ganima was talking about me.

John R is a different guy. A WAY WAY different guy.

I also took John R. to Poetland

Notice we have not heard from him in a while?

Wow, you have been there!

Nothing like be greeted after a long drive with a cold beverage. Very similar to when you arrive in Hawaii and the give you an orchid lei.

Ah, poetland...

Can’t believe I’d forgotten. Then again, only PV Mike has ever come back from this wonderful place.

Ah yes. Poetland.

Home of lingerie models and Action Jackson. We should add this mystical place to the glossary one day.

Chris McD - January 6, 2012 reply

I'm in tears Erik

My sincere apologies!

Still new around here and learning the names.

Just ask Jax about John R

Lovely gentleman

LOL

Say What

McDyess A Third Or Fouth Banana before he blew his knee out. You have to be kidding. Seriously.

From 1995-96 through 2000-01 before he blew his knee out.

McDyess

1. Led the Nuggets in MP
2. Led the Nuggets in PPG
3. Led the Nuggets in RPG
4. Was second for the Nuggets in BPG
5. Was third for the Nuggets in TS%
6. His Defensive Rating was also 15th best in the league for all player’s 6’9" and taller who played at least 8,000 minutes over those seasons

Blake’s 2010-11 Defensive Rating among all players 6’9" and over was 41st best.

McDyess also made the All Star team in 2001

Yes unfortunately for most of his career he was a third or fourth banana but before he blew his knee out he was one hell of a player

You can stat this to death...

He never wanted to be the ringmaster. Never.

That Doesn't Make You The Third Or Fourth Banana

ditto john!

ThaFoX - January 6, 2012 via Android app reply

I like how he throws it down right at the last second, every time

Just like Blake and DJ.

McDyess was a freak

something like a 47 in vertical. He had a good career even if it was marred by a string of knee injuries. He had some skills even Blake doesn’t have (yet) but few players have Griffin’s motor (and its not like Dice didn’t play hard either).

No, I agree!

He was amazing. But Griffin is different, and it’s tangible…

I was a big McDyess fan. Exciting and played hard on the court. But he was not a Blake. It’s already been said, but Blake has that motor and intangibles.

tenkaistar - January 6, 2012 reply

You Are Correct About The Motor and Intangibles

However I for one think that when it came to basketball athletic ability McDyess before his injury was similar to what Blake is.

Athletically absolutely